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For the trolleybus (无轨电车), I will list the existing 12 cities and 1 coal mine:
Beijing (北京市)
Shanghai (上海市)
Guangzhou, Guangdong Province (广东省，广州市)
Wuhan, Hubei Province (湖北省，武汉市)
Taiyuan, Shanxi Province (山西省，太原市)
Dalian, Liaoning Province (辽宁省，大连市)
Qingdao, Shandong Province (山东省，青岛市)
Jinan, Shandong Province (山东省，济南市)
Zhengzhou, Henan Province (河南省，郑州市)
Luoyang, Henan Province (河南省，洛阳市)
Baoding, Hebei Province (河北省，保定市)
Xiangyuan Wuyang Coal Mine, Changzhi, Shanxi Province (山西省，长治市，襄垣五阳煤矿)

P.S.: The parentheses are the Chinese names of these cities, with the name of the province before them, which have reverse order of English.

Among these cities, the trolleybuses in Luoyang (洛阳市) are actually operated as electric buses - they have pantographs, but they are not hung on overhead lines.
The  trolleybuses in Baoding (保定市) is only used as a commuter bus for a company and will not participate in the operation of city bus routes.

BTW, marking the Chinese names of these cities can help you find more information on the Internet. You just need to search for the city name with "无轨电车", such as "北京无轨电车", which means Beijing Trolleybus in Chinese.

Most Chinese people believe that trolleybuses are buses with a pantograph, rather than trams without tracks. Therefore, in China, trams can have yellow (or yellow green) license plates just like normal buses.

However, it was only in recent years that a consensus was reached on the models of trolleybuses, which regard trolleybus as a type of special vehicle. In earlier years, there was a wide variety of models of trolleybuses in China, with almost no rule. In contrast, Chinese buses have had a set of model naming standards for a long time (since 1988). If you are interested in the models of Chinese buses, I will also introduce this content in the future

Currently, there are several brands of trolleybus operating in China:

YUTONG (宇通)
ZHONGTONG (中通)
FOTON (福田)
SUNWIN (申沃)
YOUNG MAN (青年)
YANGZIJIANG (扬子江)
HUAYU (华宇)

Among these brands, YUTONG, ZHONGTONG, SUNWIN and FOTON has the ability to manufacture trolleybus.
YOUNG MAN has already gone bankrupt. While YANGZIJIANG filed for bankruptcy in 2018, but just last month it launched a new product. There are reports that capital from Hong Kong has re-acquired this brand.
HUAYU is the brand of Beijing Public Transport Corporation Trolleybus Manufacturing and Assembly Plant. Although this brand still exists, the actual manufacturer is FOTON.

It is worth mentioning that, although the number of cities with trolleybuses has significantly decreased is not due to the popularity of electric buses, electric buses have indeed affected many cities that still have trolleybuses nowadays. The former is due to the massive urban renewal that most of China's major cities have undergone since entering the 21st century. The old city area has been demolished, while the original roads have been widened, accompanied by the dismantling of overhead lines. For cities that have not undergone large-scale urban renewal, such as my hometown Harbin, have also participated in this campaign to dismantle overhead lines. The reason for dismantling is absurd, as city managers believe that the overhead lines are not aesthetically pleasing enough.

In the summer of 2020, I tried to search for and use my camera to record the ruins of the overhead lines in this city, as shown in the following picture.

Antonwoods wrote here:
Therefore, in China, trams can have yellow (or yellow green) license plates just like normal buses.

Correction: "trams" in this sentence shoule be "trolleybus"

Antonwoods wrote here:
The reason for dismantling is absurd, as city managers believe that the overhead lines are not aesthetically pleasing enough.

We get that over here as well, quite a lot ... it's stupid since
1. it's infrastructure, so its primary goal is to be useful (see Japan's overhead electrical wiring infrastructure all over the streets which became quite a loved visual trademark of Japanese aesthetics).
2. it doesn't have to be visually displeasing, if it's well maintained (see Switzerland).
3. there are other things uglier in terms of infrastructure in the urban environment (such that urban highways which are noisy, dusty and polluting).
4. should aesthetics be more important than pollution?

Oh well, same narrow-minded politicians all over the world.

On the early morning of July 8, 2018, Shanghai dismantled the overhead line of the No. 20 trolleybus located on the Shanghai Bund. This section of overhead line (turning right from Nanjing East Road to Zhongshan East 1st Road) is affectionately referred to as the "first bend of Asian trolleybus" by Shanghai's bus enthusiasts. Here are the reports from that time, as well as pictures taken by Shanghai bus enthusiasts.

https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=23 ... omment=1
https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=23 ... 45547603

Antonwoods wrote here:
Currently, there are several brands of trolleybus operating in China:

I consulted a book about Chinese trolleybus and tram during the day, and the content reminded me that I had missed one model of trolleybus, as shown in the following picture. The introduction of this model in this book, translated into English, is:
BFC6129GBEVS1 is a test trolleybus model that uses the overhead lines for charging. Its pantograph (or call it "trolley") does not have a tension spring and relies entirely on cylinder control for lifting and lowering, so it is not suitable for running with pantograph lifting.


This also reminds me that just this year, Wuhan has just welcomed a brand new trolleybus. Because it is an experimental prototype, there is only one available, which model is WH6120GD. You can find information about it on the website below:
https://buspedia.top/model/ckymwa

ByOnu wrote here:
We get that over here as well, quite a lot ... it's stupid since
1. it's infrastructure, so its primary goal is to be useful (see Japan's overhead electrical wiring infrastructure all over the streets which became quite a loved visual trademark of Japanese aesthetics).

Definitely, Japan is the country with the best railway culture in the world, and it has a large group of railway enthusiasts, from the Prime Minister to elementary school students. Such a wide range of enthusiasts and clubs also make it easier for them to protect overhead lines.

In addition, many Chinese railway enthusiasts are also deeply influenced by Japanese railway culture, and their online names often come from Japanese railway lines.

O macara se prabuseste pe sina de metrou si este apoi lovita de tren in Shanghai.

shoppy wrote here:
O macara se prabuseste pe sina de metrou si este apoi lovita de tren in Shanghai.

Thanks to this video, it almost collects all the accidents in China's rail transit (city metro and intercity railway train) in recent years.😂This video is a bit long so I didn't watch it in its entirety, I just skip watching it.

The accident on Shanghai Metro Line 11 occurred in the morning, and it quickly spread to all social media platforms in China, including group chats with transportation enthusiasts. This accident was undoubtedly caused by the non-standard construction of the tower crane operator at the nearby construction site. In our group chat, most people are concerned about how bus company provides shuttle bus services. Some local transportation enthusiasts in Shanghai thought that this metro line would be interrupted for a period of time (at least a week, or so), so they did not specifically go there to shoot shuttle buses. However, dramatically, the metro line resumed normal operation that night. Not only did those transportation enthusiasts who did not photo the temporary shuttle bus get frustrated, but also the office workers who need to commute by taking this metro, because they lost a good excuse for being late!😂

Your story with the "frustrated transport enthusiasts" for some bus photos does certainly remind me of home. 😮‍💨

On January 11th, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of the PRC announced the 391st batch of "Announcement on Road Motor Vehicle Production Enterprises and Products"（道路机动车辆生产企业及产品公告）. In this batch of new product announcements, the most eye-catching one is undoubtedly Yutong's release of a brand new appearance coach, which model is ZK6129H6QY. Although this is a brand new appearance, Chinese bus enthusiasts have expressed that this exterior design "draws inspiration" from Setra.

On average, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of the PRC will publish a batch of "announcements" of new products every month. Only products that have declared the announcement and passed the publicity period are allowed to be sold in China Mainland. Each bus manufacturer will publicly disclose their new products and some information in "announcements", so "checking announcements" is almost a "compulsory" course for every Chinese bus enthusiast.

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Here is the link to Yutong's new product ZK6129H6QY:
https://www.miit.gov.cn/datainfo/dljdcls ... f33.html

Here are all the products announced in this (391th) batch:
https://www.miit.gov.cn/datainfo/cpgg/ar ... 55b.html
You only need to enter “客车” (bus) in the “产品名称” (Product Name) column to view all bus products (buses, electric buses, bus chassis) in this batch of announcements.

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After the public announcement period (January 17th), the link will become invalid, so please check asap.