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  • Gabi23
  • Posted: Monday, 18.03.2019, 14:02
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Re: China Gabi23

Haos în Hong Kong după ce două metrouri s-au ciocnit. Șase milioane de persoane sunt afectate

Două metrouri din Hong Kong s-au ciocnit în timp ce realizau un test al noului sistem de semnalizare a rețelei subterane.
În urma ciocnirii dintre cele două garnituri de metrou în care nu se aflau pasageri, a dus la blocarea circulației pe o magistrală, afectând peste un milion de persoane care fac naveta zilnic, scrie BBC News. Incidentul a avut loc între stațiile Central și Admiralty la primele ore ale dimineții, înainte să se dea drumul la circulația metroului.
Niciunul dintre cele două metrouri nu avea pasageri, dar conductorii au fost răniți și au fost transportați la spital.
Reprezentanți ai companiei de transport feroviar din Hong Kong au anunțat că traficul va fi blocat mai multe zile deoarece este posibil ca reparațiile să dureze „destul de mult timp”. Operatorul rețelei MTR a declarat că transportul pe magistrala Tsuen Wan a fost suspendat și le-a cerut navetiștilor să evite ruta afectată și să utilizeze alte forme de transport. Închiderea traficului pe magistrala afectat a creat haos în alte părți și mai multe incidente s-au produs în cursul dimineții de luni. Din cauza aglomerației, o femeie a căzut pe șinele de metrou la stația Kowloon Tong, provocând o suspendare temporară a serviciului în acea zonă. Rețeaua de metrou a Hong Kong-ului este utilizată de până la șase milioane de persoane zilnic în timpul săptămânii.

Sursa: https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/haos-in ... it-2577124

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Re: China macheta218

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JbI8Ml25WQ
"A Trip to Guangzhou metro line 18 in China , it is he fastest metro line in the world.
Guangzhou metro line 18 is one of the urban express lines of Guangzhou Metro. It is the first all underground urban express line with a speed of 160 kilometers per hour in China. Its logo color is bay area blue. It is also the fastest metro line in the world. The metro line was opened on September 28, 2021.
As of September 2021, Guangzhou metro line 18 starts from Xiancun station, passes through Tianhe District, Haizhu District, Panyu District and Nansha District, connects Zhujiang New Town, Pazhou District, Panyu Square, Nansha Wanqingsha and other plates, and ends at Wanqingsha station. The line is roughly north-south.
As of September 2021, phase I of Guangzhou metro line 18 has a total length of 61.3km, of which the first section is 58.3km long, all of which are underground. A total of 9 stations are set (one station is suspended), all of which are underground stations."



 


  • shoppy
  • Posted: Saturday, 18.05.2024, 19:43
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Re: China shoppy

China isi demoleaza liniile de tramvai proaspat construite si pe cele in constructie din cauza lipsei calatorilor si a imposibilitatii absortiei producerii pieselor in industria nationala, oare trenurile rapide vor avea aceeasi soarta?



 


  • ByOnu
  • Posted: Tuesday, 20.08.2024, 19:40
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Re: China ByOnu

shoppy wrote here:
China isi demoleaza liniile de tramvai proaspat construite si pe cele in constructie din cauza lipsei calatorilor...


Conteaza si operarea: frecventa, viteza si tot tacamul. Uitandu-ma prin clipurile astea, imi pare ca tramvaiele acestea sunt ..lente, masinile depasindu-le mereu.

 


  • WT_fan06
  • Posted: Wednesday, 28.08.2024, 08:10
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Re: China WT_fan06

Din mini-documentar înțeleg că o problemă majoră a fost alimentarea de la sol, care nu s-a dovedit fiabilă. Se și povestește că un alt sistem chinezesc de tramvai cu alimentare la sol a suferit aceleași probleme și a fost convertit la alimentarea standard prin catenară / fir-contact, iar acum circulă fără probleme.

Păcat de acest experiment scump și prost.

 


  • Robert
  • Posted: Wednesday, 28.08.2024, 15:53
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Re: China Robert

În Dubai este același sistem, dar dezvoltat de Alstom. Probabil de aici și diferența.

 


  • ByOnu
  • Posted: Tuesday, 03.09.2024, 16:05
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Re: China ByOnu

WT_fan06 wrote here:
Din mini-documentar înțeleg că o problemă majoră a fost alimentarea de la sol, care nu s-a dovedit fiabilă. Se și povestește că un alt sistem chinezesc de tramvai cu alimentare la sol a suferit aceleași probleme și a fost convertit la alimentarea standard prin catenară / fir-contact, iar acum circulă fără probleme.

Păcat de acest experiment scump și prost.


Fair. Dar nu era nevoie sa sparga liniile pentru a pune catenara.

 


  • Antonwoods
  • Posted: Saturday, 02.11.2024, 17:52
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Re: China Antonwoods

Hello everyone in the Metrou Ușor forum. I'm a bus enthusiast from China. I visited Romania from July to September this year. When I was searching for information about Bucharest buses online, I came across this forum. I am pleasantly surprised that this forum has topics about China, which also inspired me to create an account on this forum and share some China's transport information. I hope you like it. If you have any questions about China that you would like to know, pls feel free to contact me and I am happy to answer them.

P.S.: I personally cannot speak Romanian (I'm learning), so in order to ensure that my expression is as accurate as possible, all the posts I post are in English. Please understand.


I arrived in Bucharest at 4am on my first day. After adjusting to the time difference, I walked out of the hotel to explore this new city. I didn't walk far when I came across an OTOKAR bus, and its appearance reminded me of a bus I took pictures of in China earlier this year. It is hard to say whether the appearance design of this Chinese brand is based on (or copied from) OTOKAR, or it is also possible that it is just designed to be very similar.
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  • WT_fan06
  • Posted: Saturday, 02.11.2024, 20:43
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Re: China WT_fan06

Welcome in our community! No issues with you speaking in English - most of us understand and if not, there are translators available. Looking forward to any info you'd like to share about Chinese public transport!

 


  • ByOnu
  • Posted: Wednesday, 06.11.2024, 12:19
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Re: China ByOnu

Antonwoods wrote here:
If you have any questions about China that you would like to know, pls feel free to contact me and I am happy to answer them.


Welcome! Personally, I'm curious about urban tram and trolleybus systems in China.

We've seen some new tram* systems being built in the last 10 years, with some appearing to not be so successful and even being destroyed altogether. Are there successful tram systems in China? What about trolleybus systems? Are there any of them being extended or planned for extension? Is the trolleybus dying in China as well (since China is one of the biggest eBuses producer) as it is, sadly, in the western world (with small exceptions such as Prague which has recently revived its long-dead trolleybus)?

Thanks! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this.


*not trackless trams which are still a gadget technology from my point of view with no real benefits - yet! Maybe time will prove me wrong.

 


  • Antonwoods
  • Posted: Wednesday, 06.11.2024, 12:59
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Re: China Antonwoods

Hello, bro. Thank u for your welcome.

This is a good question. But due to China's large size and many many cities, this question may need to be divided into several posts to fully answer. So, please allow me to briefly answer your question first (I will explain the details later).


Let me first answer the question about trolleybus in this post.

About 30 cities in China, including coal mines, once had trolleybus systems. But now there are currently 12 cities and 1 coal mine. Obviously, these 12 cities include several Chinese cities that Westerners are familiar with: Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou. Among these cities, only Beijing's trolleybus scale is still expanding (but the expansion speed is still very slow).


And then, the tram.

In fact, in recent years, China has been more enthusiastic about building new subways, most of which are located underground and have steel wheels similar to trains, as well as monorails with rubber wheels (such as Chongqing Rail Transit Line 2). But most importantly, these 'subways' all have highly independent road rights. In contrast, trams, especially those built in urban areas, are often built on the ground and need to wait for red lights like buses. Unlike Romania, the Chinese government does not consider trams as public transportation on par with buses. The most obvious sign is that most of China's trams have their own names (yes, "name"), not route numbers. Most of these trams are built in the new urban areas, and the surrounding commercial and residential areas are not well-developed. And most of them only have one route, which prevents them from utilizing the scale effect to bring in more passengers. So, as you know, the tram in Zhuhai (Chinese name of this city: 珠海) has been dismantled. But there are also some newly built trams in cities that have a lot of passenger flow due to full consideration of future urban development trends. I will introduce it in the future.

 


  • Costin
  • Posted: Wednesday, 06.11.2024, 13:21
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Re: China Costin

Let's keep this topic focused on the public transportation in China. All other discussions have been deemed irrelevant and have been deleted. Any more Q&A with the moderators should continue here https://forum.metrouusor.com/ViewTopic?p ... ByPostId in either English or Romanian.

A final hint to @Antonwoods - if you are replying to the latest message, then we do not encourage quoting it - it is self-implied that you are replying to the last message. You may still use quotes to refer to messages or parts of messages that are older.

 


  • Antonwoods
  • Posted: Wednesday, 06.11.2024, 13:31
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Re: China Antonwoods

For the trolleybus (无轨电车), I will list the existing 12 cities and 1 coal mine:
Beijing (北京市)
Shanghai (上海市)
Guangzhou, Guangdong Province (广东省,广州市)
Wuhan, Hubei Province (湖北省,武汉市)
Taiyuan, Shanxi Province (山西省,太原市)
Dalian, Liaoning Province (辽宁省,大连市)
Qingdao, Shandong Province (山东省,青岛市)
Jinan, Shandong Province (山东省,济南市)
Zhengzhou, Henan Province (河南省,郑州市)
Luoyang, Henan Province (河南省,洛阳市)
Baoding, Hebei Province (河北省,保定市)
Xiangyuan Wuyang Coal Mine, Changzhi, Shanxi Province (山西省,长治市,襄垣五阳煤矿)

P.S.: The parentheses are the Chinese names of these cities, with the name of the province before them, which have reverse order of English.

Among these cities, the trolleybuses in Luoyang (洛阳市) are actually operated as electric buses - they have pantographs, but they are not hung on overhead lines.
The  trolleybuses in Baoding (保定市) is only used as a commuter bus for a company and will not participate in the operation of city bus routes.

BTW, marking the Chinese names of these cities can help you find more information on the Internet. You just need to search for the city name with "无轨电车", such as "北京无轨电车", which means Beijing Trolleybus in Chinese.

 


  • Antonwoods
  • Posted: Wednesday, 06.11.2024, 13:49
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Re: China Antonwoods

Most Chinese people believe that trolleybuses are buses with a pantograph, rather than trams without tracks. Therefore, in China, trolleybuses can have yellow (or yellow green) license plates just like normal buses.

However, it was only in recent years that a consensus was reached on the models of trolleybuses, which regard trolleybus as a type of special vehicle. In earlier years, there was a wide variety of models of trolleybuses in China, with almost no rule. In contrast, Chinese buses have had a set of model naming standards for a long time (since 1988). If you are interested in the models of Chinese buses, I will also introduce this content in the future

 


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